Curse

Sierraa · Mar 26, 2009, 02:05 AM // 02:05

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Originally Posted by The Real Avalon

I doubt your business will go far if you treat everyone like you do on this forum.
The fact that you even keep mocking your possible artists and clientel makes me want to believe it's right for everyone here to believe you might indeed be a scammer.

The fact that the person has been spamming me in game is amazing.

subarucar · Mar 26, 2009, 07:02 PM // 19:02

This was a PM conversation i had with this person following them posting this advert in somebody elses thread. I qouted them and said "Ban this IMO" - before continueing with on-topic discussion. anyway heres the conversation:

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Originally Posted by Perpetua Gale

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Originally Posted by subarucar

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Originally Posted by Perpetua Gale

Ban it or not it doesn't matter...we figured it could be a nice way to tap talent which may otherwise go unnoticed. People enjoy drawing and if they had hte possibility to make some cash when they otherwise wouldn't then what is the problem? You don't care to draw? Fine don't. People make drawings just to submit to GW for a mini pet and you want to make snarky remarks about a no strings attached offer??!!.. What do you have to lose?..its not like you would or are capable of understanding our purpose for these strips. It's not like we can't go to one of the local colleges and have it completed as well. We wanted to have an option for other gamers outside our sphere. Participate or not it won't affect our bottom line. kkthnk bai

You already have a thread showing that your looking for artists, thats fine, whats not fine is your also advertising in other peoples threads.

It is not like it causes a disruption. It was posted in a thread that is of interest to artists. It also wasn't your thread. Spare us the hero complex and go save Gwen. If the Mods had an issue with it then they would have dealt with it.

It does cause distruption, its unrelated to the thread topic, if the artist was interested in assisting you with you cartoon, they would have posted in your thread.[/QUOTE]

Edit: that last part of this conversation isnt qouted - but it was part of it.

TheOrangeFalcon · Mar 27, 2009, 05:15 AM // 05:15

If this is for a business:
Does your business have a name?
Do you have a website?
Do you have an e-mail, fax, phone number, or some way to come in contact with your business?
What type of business is it?
If there is a pay/reward, some specifics would be nice, such as $100, 2 cents, or nothing.

You're asking someone to work for you, without saying who you are, which is why people aren't trusting. It's not that people are afraid they aren't going to be paid, at least in my opinion, it's that you would use their art without giving them credit and claiming as your own work.

Also, they way you type and how you are treating people gives you and your business a bad name, although the business being unnamed us exempt it seems. A poor way to conduct a business if you're looking to become profitable.

subarucar · Mar 28, 2009, 09:51 AM // 09:51

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Originally Posted by TheOrangeFalcon

If this is for a business:
Does your business have a name?
Do you have a website?
Do you have an e-mail, fax, phone number, or some way to come in contact with your business?
What type of business is it?
If there is a pay/reward, some specifics would be nice, such as $100, 2 cents, or nothing.

You're asking someone to work for you, without saying who you are, which is why people aren't trusting. It's not that people are afraid they aren't going to be paid, at least in my opinion, it's that you would use their art without giving them credit and claiming as your own work.

Also, they way you type and how you are treating people gives you and your business a bad name, although the business being unnamed us exempt it seems. A poor way to conduct a business if you're looking to become profitable.

Quoted for truth

StarrTheInsane · Mar 28, 2009, 10:39 PM // 22:39

It's not just strangers you find on forums you have to watch out for when you're asked to contribute artwork. Even people you think you know pretty well in real life can get you into trouble if you don't know exactly what the work is for. I learned that lesson the hard way.
For me, it was a simple graphic request from my boyfriend's (at the time) mom. She needed a logo for a website that she was putting together for a friend and willing to pay me $25 for it. Not too bad. It's at least nice to have a site on your resume that people can look at to see what you've done. A few years later, I got curious about whatever happened with that site and found that it had been blocked by the government for hate propaganda. Not only was it blocked, but a certain large demographic was addressing her personally in threat letters because of the site since she was listed as the owner of the domain name and I'm told the people at Stormfront LOOOOOOVED her for it.

I was blown away. Even if I think I have a good idea what a company wants as far as graphics, I'm very careful now to make sure this is something I want to associate myself with. I'm sure other artists would agree. These guys aren't just trolling you for wanting a good sample of artwork to choose from, they just want to know what the business is.